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Albion's avatar

Not a surprise. Moral insolvency at some point will become obvious -at the point where it will do the most good.

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Elsa's avatar

I like the term, moral insolvency. Yes, so massively much moral insolvency!!

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Judith Abele's avatar

Now that OvalMedia is insolvent - might that be a reason for other people than we would wish getting access to the Corona Committees archive?

Could someone of you, who have the direct contact to Roger Bittel ask him to inquire this and if necessary, somehow find a way for preventing this?

Since: Very probably not all material is disseminated - and also: How to ever get back in a systematic way, what is whereever out in the world? This sounds to me like a possibly horrible work that shoud be absolutely prevented.

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Elsa's avatar

Note: Reiner has not been part of the CC for over a year. I would not expect much to be with OvalMedia.

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Merry Mary's avatar

The German government bounced Yanis Varoufakis out in recent days, and Varoufakis threw a little fit on X. Varoufakis has a big following. The German government called him the usual stuff, but Varoufakis is about as left as it gets!

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nixnixnix's avatar

Classic Psycho plotline; woman steals to please or keep boyfriend

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Greta Good's avatar

So Cibis is another weak link to be pressured by those trying to construct a prosecution.

Does Cibis/OvalMedia control the Corona Committee archive?

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Elsa's avatar

Excellent question. Don't think so. All I know is that Reiner doesn't. But the interviewss are widely disseminated

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Merry Mary's avatar

Has Wodarg been in on all this also?

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Elsa's avatar

Definitely. He was part of those who kept Reiner out of the Big Switch meting.

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Greta Good's avatar

It looks like it. I don't know if he has said anything publicly, but he has at least gone along with VF and the others. I don't know why.

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Judith Abele's avatar

I guess, he was taken in by this bad game of the state and his prosecutor.

Why do I think so? Since years ago I was a student apprentice at Wodarg in the German parliament, working closely for him and accompanying him almost everywhere. So I got to know him for four weeks - and during them as a person with a strong character and spine/backbones. He strongly stood up against all odds - if necessary alone for what he had recognized as ethical. E.g. against big pharmas interests. Therefore I assume, he is or might be skillfully blended - and in that way used.

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Elsa's avatar

Very interesting - your personal experience. I can't remember who told me - it could have been Reiner - that it mattered to Wodarg to be the star of the show (I' not remembering the right term) and with Reiner, he wasn't . In other words, a personal failing.

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MerwinARTist's avatar

It's interesting to me .. this dynamic between Wodarg and Reiner .. as well as the other personalities. I think most of us from the beginning of our experience with the CC .. were looking at the roles different individuals played. Quite obviously .. no one can be equal players .. someone needs to take the lead like the conductor of an orchestra.

While I made an attempt to listen to everyone who spoke .. I found more connection with the individuals who spoke without a strong accent. It seemed to me that Reiner was easier to listen to .. but I remained "curious" as to who Wodarg was/is. Are we expecting to hear from Wodarg as a witness?

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Elsa's avatar

I doubt we will hear from Wodang. I believe from now on all the witnesses will be from Reiner's side.

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Greta Good's avatar

Thank you, that's very interesting! Your personal experience confirms Wodarg's public persona as an intelligent man with integrity.

I wondered if there might be personal animosity towards Reiner, but perhaps Wodarg simply thinks the accusations should be resolved in court. But there have been other political cases, for example Prof. Bhakdi: Wodarg must realise the German justice system is compromised?

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