Thanks for posting Elsa - I later listened carefully to the interview. Phil Tourney said he did two navy tours in Vietnam before joining the USS Liberty for three tours. Later, he added that at the time of the incident, (Jun 8, 1967), he had been on the USS Liberty for about 2.5 years. Now, a navy tour in Vietnam lasted one year, so if Phil Tourney had started his service THE DAY the US got involved in Vietnam (August 4, 1964), he would have been done with his service in Vietnam August 3, 1966, assuming no breaks between tours. That leaves just shy of 10 months for him to be on the USS Liberty (again, assuming no breaks)...that is far short of the 2.5 years he claims to have been with the ship. What's more, he gets other details wrong: he says they got word in June to leave the coast of West Africa, and head to the Sinai. The actual date they were given new instructions, and sailed from Abidjan, Cote d'Ivoire was May 23, 1967. Perhaps his memory again failed him? But if he wrote a book on the subject, he should be able to get his months straight. What's more, in his account of the incident, it sounds as if he was at the bedside of every dying crew member, and as if there were dozens if not hundreds - but be reminded that of the 34 killed, 25 (spies) were instantly killed when the Israeli torpedo hit the side of the USS Liberty. Several more were killed before that from the initial Israeli planes. So that leaves somewhere between 4 and 5 people still left to die after that. Tourney goes into detail about helping the ship doctor with surgeries after the attack had ended, and details his personal interactions with at least two of the would-be dead. Is it likely that on a ship with more than 200 crew, Tourney had close interactions with 2 out of 4/5 of the people who died after the attack ended? It is possible, but not likely. He also never mentions the very important detail that when the Israeli torpedo boats approached, they repeatedly asked the USS Liberty to identify itself, which it refused to do. He also fails to mention that the USS Liberty fired first on the torpedo boats, not the other way around. It should also be noted that he is not anywhere on the original crew manifesto of the USS Liberty. Was Phil Tourney really on board? I don't know, but his narrative and interview certainly comes with an agenda. When Candace Owens asked him a simple question about his thoughts during the incident, he responded along the lines of 'Well, Jesus knows a lot about being betrayed, and I'll tell you, we were betrayed by his chosen people." A canned line, no doubt, and one he'd been itching to slide into the interview somewhere.
If you check for the detailed responses of Daisy Moses you will find further interesting information. I very much appreciate all your knowledge - especially your checking into what Phil Tourney said. Excellent verifying.
Sunface & Elsa..... what you do not yet understand is that, as a wise Palestinian envoy said, which is true, accurate and drenched in honour: "The Israeli's lie more than they breathe." Put another way, the "first casualty of war, is the truth" was created so that the Israeli's psychopathic behaviours might somehow be comprehended by normal, good and honest people.
I’m so confused about why Elon and Tucker would be qualified to squelch a particular viewpoint/testimony and guard the “real truth”? Silencing unacceptable viewpoints has led to all manner of evil in the modern age. Let’s hear it all and allow each individual to discern the truth.
Elsa your infatuation with Zionism and their murderous ways even when dealing with their main supporters-- ie USA--- is really unseemly. You have no idea of how ridiculous you have made yourself look. Lyndon Johnson, who helped facilitate the murder of JFK, was wanting to make it look like Egypt sunk the USS Liberty so the US could join in the Israeli assault on Egypt. You might want to stop posting so much and get yourself away from Prager U and all your Zionist spin doctors to do some independent research of your own. Your knee jerk reaction to want to defend Israel at every turn is not serving you well.
We're entitled to our own opinions. We're not entitled to our own facts. The comment from Hall is not about opinions. He makes fact-claims. For instance, "You have no idea of how ridiculous you have made yourself look." That is a fact-claim for which he gives no backing.
Then: "Lyndon Johnson ... was wanting to make it look like Egypt sunk the USS Liberty so the US could join in the Israeli assault on Egypt." That's another fact-claim for which he gives ZERO backing. The war was basically over, in case someone wants to check facts.
He also mentions "Zionist spin doctors" - doing his best, it seems, to denigrate people he disagrees with, by using the term, Zionist. I have found Prager U very fact-based.
Another unfounded fact-claim: he mentions my "knee jerk reaction." In fact, what has happened, over a number of posts, is lots of research and listening to the many people who have commented.
I suppose one could say, about him: "You have no idea of how ridiculous you have made yourself look." Is this an unfounded opinion? One can refer back to what he says.
Anyway, thank you, Surface Jack, for your comment which gave me the impetus to make this extensive response.
PLEASE REREAD. HE MAKES MASSES OF FACT-CLAIMS NOT BASED ON FACTS. AS I JUST SAID: PLEASE REREAD:
He makes fact-claims. For instance, "You have no idea of how ridiculous you have made yourself look." That is a fact-claim for which he gives no backing.
Then: "Lyndon Johnson ... was wanting to make it look like Egypt sunk the USS Liberty so the US could join in the Israeli assault on Egypt." That's another fact-claim for which he gives ZERO backing. The war was basically over, in case someone wants to check facts.
He also mentions "Zionist spin doctors" - doing his best, it seems, to denigrate people he disagrees with, by using the term, Zionist. I have found Prager U very fact-based.
Another unfounded fact-claim: he mentions my "knee jerk reaction." In fact, what has happened, over a number of posts, is lots of research and listening to the many people who have commented.
I suppose one could say, about him: "You have no idea of how ridiculous you have made yourself look." Is this an unfounded opinion? One can refer back to what he says.
While you are projecting I thought I would comment
Your claim about Hall's a scholar and researcher is quite laughable Pam Barker.
He may be a researcher and maybe a scholar, but wow he has one massive Palestinian chip on his shoulder.
I noticed in one of his articles he penned, he refers to Israel as the occupier. Not only is he a wishy washy progressive neo-liberal, he is so very indoctrinated politically and makes absurd claims and is a Marxist labeller of note. He is also indigenously indoctrinated on top of that.
He is clearly a Palestinian apologist. I really don’t care if he is called an Emeritus professor either. He should read a little more about the professional squatters in Gaza. We have many academics who are absolute idiots.
The accusation about Israel committing Genocide is just as absurd as the numbers quoted by the “HAMAS” controlled Palestinian Health Authorities are all cause mortality and there is zero differentiation the terrorist group’s figures. They do not differentiate between civilians and combatants. So, I call his claim out as BS. Simple maths will also show you that the deaths of 0.08% being about 41K does not make it a genocide when it’s compared to Rwanda’s of about 800 000 souls. This too was proven by several mathematicians including Norman Fenton and statistician Abraham Wyner.
His hate for Prime Minister Netanyahu is only superseded by the Israeli left. He labelled him Netanyahu as the Genocider-in-Chief while he completely ignores the source of the Complaint at the ICJ by a terrorist organisation who is involved in the systematic genocide of the Afrikaner which continues today. The Agenda of the Marxist communist ANC to destroy the Afrikaner is ongoing and has never ceased and the rest of the white population will be next.
Let me help both you and him.
The occupier is simply a Marxist propaganda term like calling Israel an apartheid state. Yet it is well known that there are Arabs in the Knesset, and Arabs who held Israeli citizenship are entitled to vote for the Israeli Knesset.
First, I will now help you with the term Apartheid and then with the term Zionist. Both suffer the same Marxist attack.
For the little infected brains that think Apartheid was Hendrik Verwoerd’s creation needs a correction. The term 'apartheid' was not coined by Verwoerd, but by Dr DF Malan.
The word “apartheid” actually is a word in a language called Afrikaans. It was a modified language of a group of initially white people in South Africa originating from the Netherlands. The word means separate development by self-determination and by self-government.
People need to understand that the Afrikaners were no different from any other group of people in history who wanted to be self-governed and believe in self-determination. It is no different from the Amish belief system, of religion, culture values and value systems, aspirations, like-thinking, and life-style or being “like-minded.” It originates from Alsatian Anabaptistism like the Mennonites and Amish. Just like the Hutterites in Canada. Many Afrikaners were Calvinists, Baptists and are Christians. Huguenots who were devout Protestants from France and Southern Netherlands following the teaching of John Calvin, fleeing religious persecution in France, after King Louis XIV revoked the Edict of Nantes and declared Protestantism to be illegal in 1685.
The word apartheid is a neo-liberal Marxist politically correct construct. It was a word that was bastardized and weaponised to demonise and ostracise particular individual group of people.
A target name for labelling people “Racist.”
It is no different form the new neo-liberal names like “Denier” “Anti-Vaxxer” in the time of COVID that we see being used to label individuals or groups or to ostracise them as pariah or an outcast or someone who's to be despised and avoided and shunned for or some non-apparent “political” offense they have committed. Like wearing a Yellow Star in Germany.
The very same British monarchy of the Saxe-Coburg clan (germans) who changed their name to the Windsors who are behind the ICC are behind it.
Read How the British Invented Communism (And Blamed it on the Jews) - Richard Poe
So successful was the assault on the Afrikaner that it was made a legal term in the ICC by being called a crime against humanity.
Now the very same MO or playbook is being used by the very same Marxist freemasons and Jesuits of the Saxe-Coburg clan and those behind the Vatican (Black Nobility). They have now sullied the term Zionist to relegate it to a crime against humanity as they did with Apartheid. Marxists abhor independent sovereign nations and patriotic people. It is their biggest threat.
Now you know why the Clown professor you so revere calls Israel an Apartheid State when it is clear it is not. So much for his research BTW
"And I do not think that anyone in Gaza will forget how children, health care workers, hospitals, and journalists, hundreds of them, thousands of children, 17,000 in the meantime, were deliberately targeted, destroyed, and killed in Gaza. And how the regime in Syria tortured and killed more than 200,000 people and then put them in mass graves. Justice will be done, and none of the monsters will escape it." ~ Dr. Reiner Fuellmich
Sunface Sam. Why do you feel you have to hide your real name? Conducting defamation from behind the safety of a mask might be taken as the sign of a coward by some, as a sign you don't have the courage of your convictions. Treating the definition of genocide as a numbers game exposes you don't know what you are talking about. You obviously haven't done any significant homework on the subject. Here the UN's definition of genocide. Its criteria are clearly met by points a-d.
Article I
The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in
time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to
punish.
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
Elsa - I strongly suggest that you watch this video. False flags are a big part of the warmongers’ playbook. The US wanted to get a piece of the action and their Israeli “allies” were more than happy to do the damage. The only problem was they didn’t have enough time to sink the ship and kill the entire crew.
AFAIK they also attacked the British military & officials at King David Hotel 1946 ..& murdered in total 91..and lots of similar "excuses" "mistakes"...
I don't believe it could have been spying on Israel on behalf of Israel. It was just off the shore of Israel, so the communications it was intercepting were from Israel.
Actually it was off shore from Egypt and was intercepting intel from both sides. According to one report they received communications that Israel had attacked Egyptian air fields unprovoked which was contrary to their initial claims.
Its beyond bizarre. Its a train wreck of Zionist thought control doing much damage to a very vulnerable individual. Its like Elsa been taken over by a really harmful cult.
The USS Liberty is one of the greatest scandals in all of Israel and USA history. It certainly exposed Lyndon Johnson as basically a plant for Israel in the White House.
"Ally? One does not spy on an ally." Really ? You are dead wrong Elsa. You have much to learn.
The Israeli Mossad developed security spyware called Pegasus which had a 'backdoor' and allowed Israel's allies to be spied on non stop by the Mossad. Former publishing magnate Robert Maxwell also a Mossad agent was Israel's number one salesman for Pegasus, until his untimely death. Of course he was also the father of Ghislaine Maxwell. You can read all about these exploits in a 2 book series by investigative journalist Whitney Webb, called One Nation Under Blackmail.
Pegasus, just happened after the event under discussion ScottMcFly.
As far as allies go, both Britain and the US turned on their allies and have shown themselves us untrustworthy and unreliable. The American are notorious for their treachery. They did that with Russia too don't forget. They the US did the same against South South Africa in the Angolan War in 1976.
No, you are jumping to conclusions and attempting to put words in my mouth which is typical Marxist retaliatory response.
I was not part of any White régime and in fact I didn't vote for any of the political parties either.
I was forced to serve in the Armed forces by conscription in the 1970's. I did so to show my disdain and disgust for freemason imposed Marxist belief of one man one vote that has led to this country where I live becoming a Marxist communist supporting evil régime, which still discriminates against all minorities which includes blacks, whites and coloured people.
I have gone so far as withdrawing my name from the corrupted "Party System" voters roll of the colonist British Westminster system of the Independent Electoral Commission which is as corrupt as the Canadian one. Forcing one to accept mandates and surrender ones freedoms to be able to participate.
Stop being so arrogant to make assumptions about me.
Yes, as said Elsa you have much to learn, and without that knowledge you could never elevate your message as is your stated goal to the level of a Candace Owens. Whitney Webb and others have the goods. I would strongly recommend you read her 2 volume set, 'One Nation Under Blackmail' to understand how the Israeli IDF/Mossad actually work. The blackmail rings started way way before Epstein et al. Cheers.
Thanks for posting Elsa - I later listened carefully to the interview. Phil Tourney said he did two navy tours in Vietnam before joining the USS Liberty for three tours. Later, he added that at the time of the incident, (Jun 8, 1967), he had been on the USS Liberty for about 2.5 years. Now, a navy tour in Vietnam lasted one year, so if Phil Tourney had started his service THE DAY the US got involved in Vietnam (August 4, 1964), he would have been done with his service in Vietnam August 3, 1966, assuming no breaks between tours. That leaves just shy of 10 months for him to be on the USS Liberty (again, assuming no breaks)...that is far short of the 2.5 years he claims to have been with the ship. What's more, he gets other details wrong: he says they got word in June to leave the coast of West Africa, and head to the Sinai. The actual date they were given new instructions, and sailed from Abidjan, Cote d'Ivoire was May 23, 1967. Perhaps his memory again failed him? But if he wrote a book on the subject, he should be able to get his months straight. What's more, in his account of the incident, it sounds as if he was at the bedside of every dying crew member, and as if there were dozens if not hundreds - but be reminded that of the 34 killed, 25 (spies) were instantly killed when the Israeli torpedo hit the side of the USS Liberty. Several more were killed before that from the initial Israeli planes. So that leaves somewhere between 4 and 5 people still left to die after that. Tourney goes into detail about helping the ship doctor with surgeries after the attack had ended, and details his personal interactions with at least two of the would-be dead. Is it likely that on a ship with more than 200 crew, Tourney had close interactions with 2 out of 4/5 of the people who died after the attack ended? It is possible, but not likely. He also never mentions the very important detail that when the Israeli torpedo boats approached, they repeatedly asked the USS Liberty to identify itself, which it refused to do. He also fails to mention that the USS Liberty fired first on the torpedo boats, not the other way around. It should also be noted that he is not anywhere on the original crew manifesto of the USS Liberty. Was Phil Tourney really on board? I don't know, but his narrative and interview certainly comes with an agenda. When Candace Owens asked him a simple question about his thoughts during the incident, he responded along the lines of 'Well, Jesus knows a lot about being betrayed, and I'll tell you, we were betrayed by his chosen people." A canned line, no doubt, and one he'd been itching to slide into the interview somewhere.
If you check for the detailed responses of Daisy Moses you will find further interesting information. I very much appreciate all your knowledge - especially your checking into what Phil Tourney said. Excellent verifying.
Sunface & Elsa..... what you do not yet understand is that, as a wise Palestinian envoy said, which is true, accurate and drenched in honour: "The Israeli's lie more than they breathe." Put another way, the "first casualty of war, is the truth" was created so that the Israeli's psychopathic behaviours might somehow be comprehended by normal, good and honest people.
How do we know it is true, accurate and drenched in honour?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Elsa, FYI about Egypt and why was Egypt involved.
Here it is - The Muslim Brotherhood: The Many Faces of Their Majesties’ Service - https://larouchepub.com/other/2013/4031mb_hms.html
I’m so confused about why Elon and Tucker would be qualified to squelch a particular viewpoint/testimony and guard the “real truth”? Silencing unacceptable viewpoints has led to all manner of evil in the modern age. Let’s hear it all and allow each individual to discern the truth.
I do not suggest they squelch anyone. Owens has had over 4 million views. My desire is to have a different viewpoint get similar visibility.
Elsa your infatuation with Zionism and their murderous ways even when dealing with their main supporters-- ie USA--- is really unseemly. You have no idea of how ridiculous you have made yourself look. Lyndon Johnson, who helped facilitate the murder of JFK, was wanting to make it look like Egypt sunk the USS Liberty so the US could join in the Israeli assault on Egypt. You might want to stop posting so much and get yourself away from Prager U and all your Zionist spin doctors to do some independent research of your own. Your knee jerk reaction to want to defend Israel at every turn is not serving you well.
You're smoking your socks Hall.
Hall's a scholar and researcher. He's solid.
That's your opinion to which you are entitled of course. Like you, I too have an opinion which disagrees with yours.
We're entitled to our own opinions. We're not entitled to our own facts. The comment from Hall is not about opinions. He makes fact-claims. For instance, "You have no idea of how ridiculous you have made yourself look." That is a fact-claim for which he gives no backing.
Then: "Lyndon Johnson ... was wanting to make it look like Egypt sunk the USS Liberty so the US could join in the Israeli assault on Egypt." That's another fact-claim for which he gives ZERO backing. The war was basically over, in case someone wants to check facts.
He also mentions "Zionist spin doctors" - doing his best, it seems, to denigrate people he disagrees with, by using the term, Zionist. I have found Prager U very fact-based.
Another unfounded fact-claim: he mentions my "knee jerk reaction." In fact, what has happened, over a number of posts, is lots of research and listening to the many people who have commented.
I suppose one could say, about him: "You have no idea of how ridiculous you have made yourself look." Is this an unfounded opinion? One can refer back to what he says.
Anyway, thank you, Surface Jack, for your comment which gave me the impetus to make this extensive response.
It is very clear to me Prof. Hall's (Globalization Studies) comments are 'opinions' are based on facts. You should know better Elsa !
PLEASE REREAD. HE MAKES MASSES OF FACT-CLAIMS NOT BASED ON FACTS. AS I JUST SAID: PLEASE REREAD:
He makes fact-claims. For instance, "You have no idea of how ridiculous you have made yourself look." That is a fact-claim for which he gives no backing.
Then: "Lyndon Johnson ... was wanting to make it look like Egypt sunk the USS Liberty so the US could join in the Israeli assault on Egypt." That's another fact-claim for which he gives ZERO backing. The war was basically over, in case someone wants to check facts.
He also mentions "Zionist spin doctors" - doing his best, it seems, to denigrate people he disagrees with, by using the term, Zionist. I have found Prager U very fact-based.
Another unfounded fact-claim: he mentions my "knee jerk reaction." In fact, what has happened, over a number of posts, is lots of research and listening to the many people who have commented.
I suppose one could say, about him: "You have no idea of how ridiculous you have made yourself look." Is this an unfounded opinion? One can refer back to what he says.
And opinions are like arseholes - everybody's got one. Do some research like Hall has done for decades.
While you are projecting I thought I would comment
Your claim about Hall's a scholar and researcher is quite laughable Pam Barker.
He may be a researcher and maybe a scholar, but wow he has one massive Palestinian chip on his shoulder.
I noticed in one of his articles he penned, he refers to Israel as the occupier. Not only is he a wishy washy progressive neo-liberal, he is so very indoctrinated politically and makes absurd claims and is a Marxist labeller of note. He is also indigenously indoctrinated on top of that.
He is clearly a Palestinian apologist. I really don’t care if he is called an Emeritus professor either. He should read a little more about the professional squatters in Gaza. We have many academics who are absolute idiots.
The accusation about Israel committing Genocide is just as absurd as the numbers quoted by the “HAMAS” controlled Palestinian Health Authorities are all cause mortality and there is zero differentiation the terrorist group’s figures. They do not differentiate between civilians and combatants. So, I call his claim out as BS. Simple maths will also show you that the deaths of 0.08% being about 41K does not make it a genocide when it’s compared to Rwanda’s of about 800 000 souls. This too was proven by several mathematicians including Norman Fenton and statistician Abraham Wyner.
Here for your education as well as your professor. https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/analysis-shows-gaza-fatality-numbers-faked-but-misses-key-point-which-makes-the-numbers-even-more-ludicrous/
His hate for Prime Minister Netanyahu is only superseded by the Israeli left. He labelled him Netanyahu as the Genocider-in-Chief while he completely ignores the source of the Complaint at the ICJ by a terrorist organisation who is involved in the systematic genocide of the Afrikaner which continues today. The Agenda of the Marxist communist ANC to destroy the Afrikaner is ongoing and has never ceased and the rest of the white population will be next.
Let me help both you and him.
The occupier is simply a Marxist propaganda term like calling Israel an apartheid state. Yet it is well known that there are Arabs in the Knesset, and Arabs who held Israeli citizenship are entitled to vote for the Israeli Knesset.
First, I will now help you with the term Apartheid and then with the term Zionist. Both suffer the same Marxist attack.
For the little infected brains that think Apartheid was Hendrik Verwoerd’s creation needs a correction. The term 'apartheid' was not coined by Verwoerd, but by Dr DF Malan.
The word “apartheid” actually is a word in a language called Afrikaans. It was a modified language of a group of initially white people in South Africa originating from the Netherlands. The word means separate development by self-determination and by self-government.
People need to understand that the Afrikaners were no different from any other group of people in history who wanted to be self-governed and believe in self-determination. It is no different from the Amish belief system, of religion, culture values and value systems, aspirations, like-thinking, and life-style or being “like-minded.” It originates from Alsatian Anabaptistism like the Mennonites and Amish. Just like the Hutterites in Canada. Many Afrikaners were Calvinists, Baptists and are Christians. Huguenots who were devout Protestants from France and Southern Netherlands following the teaching of John Calvin, fleeing religious persecution in France, after King Louis XIV revoked the Edict of Nantes and declared Protestantism to be illegal in 1685.
The word apartheid is a neo-liberal Marxist politically correct construct. It was a word that was bastardized and weaponised to demonise and ostracise particular individual group of people.
A target name for labelling people “Racist.”
It is no different form the new neo-liberal names like “Denier” “Anti-Vaxxer” in the time of COVID that we see being used to label individuals or groups or to ostracise them as pariah or an outcast or someone who's to be despised and avoided and shunned for or some non-apparent “political” offense they have committed. Like wearing a Yellow Star in Germany.
The very same British monarchy of the Saxe-Coburg clan (germans) who changed their name to the Windsors who are behind the ICC are behind it.
Read How the British Invented Communism (And Blamed it on the Jews) - Richard Poe
So successful was the assault on the Afrikaner that it was made a legal term in the ICC by being called a crime against humanity.
Now the very same MO or playbook is being used by the very same Marxist freemasons and Jesuits of the Saxe-Coburg clan and those behind the Vatican (Black Nobility). They have now sullied the term Zionist to relegate it to a crime against humanity as they did with Apartheid. Marxists abhor independent sovereign nations and patriotic people. It is their biggest threat.
Now you know why the Clown professor you so revere calls Israel an Apartheid State when it is clear it is not. So much for his research BTW
"And I do not think that anyone in Gaza will forget how children, health care workers, hospitals, and journalists, hundreds of them, thousands of children, 17,000 in the meantime, were deliberately targeted, destroyed, and killed in Gaza. And how the regime in Syria tortured and killed more than 200,000 people and then put them in mass graves. Justice will be done, and none of the monsters will escape it." ~ Dr. Reiner Fuellmich
So says the Zionist apologist !
Sunface Sam. Why do you feel you have to hide your real name? Conducting defamation from behind the safety of a mask might be taken as the sign of a coward by some, as a sign you don't have the courage of your convictions. Treating the definition of genocide as a numbers game exposes you don't know what you are talking about. You obviously haven't done any significant homework on the subject. Here the UN's definition of genocide. Its criteria are clearly met by points a-d.
Article I
The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in
time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to
punish.
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
Elsa - I strongly suggest that you watch this video. False flags are a big part of the warmongers’ playbook. The US wanted to get a piece of the action and their Israeli “allies” were more than happy to do the damage. The only problem was they didn’t have enough time to sink the ship and kill the entire crew.
https://youtu.be/tx72tAWVcoM?si=Z8aFnIkS5qTyy9u1
https://x.com/ChattonDominiq1/status/1875887080699486382?s=08
AFAIK they also attacked the British military & officials at King David Hotel 1946 ..& murdered in total 91..and lots of similar "excuses" "mistakes"...
Perhaps the Liberty was spying on behalf of Israel; they are on the same side?
I don't believe it could have been spying on Israel on behalf of Israel. It was just off the shore of Israel, so the communications it was intercepting were from Israel.
You are totally lost in the fog of the Six Day War in 1967. Notice you haven't received a single supportive comments.
Bang on again Prof. Hall ! Will she now say again these are "stated as facts", not opinions?? Lol....
Wrong as usual
Actually it was off shore from Egypt and was intercepting intel from both sides. According to one report they received communications that Israel had attacked Egyptian air fields unprovoked which was contrary to their initial claims.
That's five minutes I'll never get back but you keep swinging.
Don't trust governments
Elsa. What is wrong with you? Get real.
The bizarrest thing I've read yet
Its beyond bizarre. Its a train wreck of Zionist thought control doing much damage to a very vulnerable individual. Its like Elsa been taken over by a really harmful cult.
I'd say it's rather that I haven't been taken over by a cult!!!!
Indeed. And Candace is only (very usefully) bringing out what has long been known about the USS Liberty situation.
The USS Liberty is one of the greatest scandals in all of Israel and USA history. It certainly exposed Lyndon Johnson as basically a plant for Israel in the White House.
That is not the case whatsoever - as I have shown in previous posts. He presents himself as an ally while being the reverse.
He? Lyndon Johnson?
an ally? an ally of Israel
Are you saying Lyndon Johnson presents himself as an ally of Israel but he is the reverse? Please be more specific with you language?
"Ally? One does not spy on an ally." Really ? You are dead wrong Elsa. You have much to learn.
The Israeli Mossad developed security spyware called Pegasus which had a 'backdoor' and allowed Israel's allies to be spied on non stop by the Mossad. Former publishing magnate Robert Maxwell also a Mossad agent was Israel's number one salesman for Pegasus, until his untimely death. Of course he was also the father of Ghislaine Maxwell. You can read all about these exploits in a 2 book series by investigative journalist Whitney Webb, called One Nation Under Blackmail.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/epstein/
Pegasus spyware
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)
Here we go again with Project Gabriel (spyware) because the Pegasus program was so......successful.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2023/03/investigative-reports/cia-and-mossad-linked-surveillance-system-quietly-being-installed-throughout-the-us/
Pegasus, just happened after the event under discussion ScottMcFly.
As far as allies go, both Britain and the US turned on their allies and have shown themselves us untrustworthy and unreliable. The American are notorious for their treachery. They did that with Russia too don't forget. They the US did the same against South South Africa in the Angolan War in 1976.
Oh. So now you are arguing on behalf of the White minority regime of apartheid South Africa. Israel and apartheid South Africa were close allies.
No, you are jumping to conclusions and attempting to put words in my mouth which is typical Marxist retaliatory response.
I was not part of any White régime and in fact I didn't vote for any of the political parties either.
I was forced to serve in the Armed forces by conscription in the 1970's. I did so to show my disdain and disgust for freemason imposed Marxist belief of one man one vote that has led to this country where I live becoming a Marxist communist supporting evil régime, which still discriminates against all minorities which includes blacks, whites and coloured people.
I have gone so far as withdrawing my name from the corrupted "Party System" voters roll of the colonist British Westminster system of the Independent Electoral Commission which is as corrupt as the Canadian one. Forcing one to accept mandates and surrender ones freedoms to be able to participate.
Stop being so arrogant to make assumptions about me.
My suggestion. Stop wasting your time. They are not about to learn.
You are so right. Lots and lots of spying on allies. Whitney Webb - very interesting.
Yes, as said Elsa you have much to learn, and without that knowledge you could never elevate your message as is your stated goal to the level of a Candace Owens. Whitney Webb and others have the goods. I would strongly recommend you read her 2 volume set, 'One Nation Under Blackmail' to understand how the Israeli IDF/Mossad actually work. The blackmail rings started way way before Epstein et al. Cheers.
To get that reach the way Candice does, is you sell your soul to the highest bidder. She has no core values but money and status.
I think I'll pass. Not a tempting option.
DS .....