I'm one of those people who doesn't teach her dogs tricks - just sit and stay and down and good dog. So nothing to do except have a third Truth Summit on a topic I agree may be a bit challenging. I will be starting with something from Jason Christoff - interviewed by Reiner. I believe Jason's info may make a big difference. Hope I've piqued your interest!!!
Yes! Let's Do The Twist! My x3 Favourite Guys as well! WHY? Because: I went down the Islam rabbit hole with Dr. Bill Warner & Dr. Robert Spencer. Don't know Mark Durie? Something old: Something New! AND I also like Acts17.com Apologetics (Dr. David Wood) AND now is Community.Acts17.com AND I was 1st introduced to Islam by Dr. Jay Smith (a Christian Polemicist & Apologist) (when he spoke in the UK free-speech park (prior to Political Islam taking it over). Did research with Islamic Historians (hidden) on cloud radio (name?). The following link is with Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson.
Hi, I think you will love the Islam Truth Summit. Mark Durie - Australian. Fascinating. And for the people you know - do you know about Bill Warner's childhood, for instance - and how that links with everything? As for David Wood, I love his work as well - his intelligence, his detailed knowledge, his sense of humor. I can very much see that you've been down that rabbit hole, and have explored corridors I haven't - like Dr Jay Smith.
I forgot to mention Pamela Gellar! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhLRTMlh8Dk Jay Smith is back on youtube with Pfander Films. AND at this link there is a long write up on the courses. The "enrichment student" course can take the 8 week course that is one of the foundational courses offered to Seminary Students. I figure that your Truth Summit will be watched for years (decades) to come as Western Civilization is torn apart by the lack of/destruction of Christian Foundational Ideals. I have noticed that many people in the social media (will not name) link/state "3 Abrahamic Religions" making no distinctions? For now I will believe that they believe it, a problem of brain-washing. I will be able to take the next Enrichment Course - so that I will be able to -- comment!
“No religion in the modern world is as misunderstood as Islam. It haunts the popular Western imagination as an extreme faith that promotes authoritarian government, female oppression, civil war, and terrorism. Karen Armstrong’s short history offers a vital corrective to this narrow view. The distillation of years of thinking and writing about Islam. It demonstrates that the world’s fastest-growing faith is a much richer and more complex phenomena than its modern fundamentalist strain might suggest.”
Personal comment: Evil grows, and grows as it destroys religion…..
I clearly hear what you are saying, You seem unaware of (anyway silent on) the massive persecution of Christians and Jews in many parts of the world. You also seem unaware of the massive erosion of and denigration of Judeo-Christian values across the West.
Yes, Elsa, the world is being taught to hate all Religions. Evoke hate among all religions…divide and rule tactics….Religion vs.Religion…….
I would suggest reading: The World’s Religions, 50th Anniversary Edition, by Huston Smith.
Huston Smith is widely regarded as the most eloquent and accessible contemporary authority on the history of religions. “The best one-volume book on world religions.”—Library Journal.
‘Huston Smith’s classic on the world’s religions has justifiably become as venerable as the old texts he studies….I urge all readers to make it the core of their home library.”—Thomas Moore, author of Care of the Soul.
Emphasizing the inner-rather than the institutional-dimension of religions. www.hustonsmith.net.
William James: …"the life of religion as a whole is mankind’s most important function."
'hear, hear' says this BUT, BUT, BUT-person to the other BUT, BUT, BUT-person :-)) when I lived in Indonesia (very muslim, very tolerant) I was involved in a project translating into English various texts from the Qur'an concerning women's reproductive health (yes, babies and sex and so on) and marriage- and divorce-laws. not hear-say hadith, which are in many cases very different, as in: more conservative and restrictive. it was very informative, loved working on it.
Wonderful that you will be tuning in with great interest. About smearing any target: my interest is in showing what you call the target, what I see as the focus of attention - in this case, the core Islamic religious texts, notably the Quran, also the Sira (life of Mohammed) and the 2 major authenticated collections of Hadiths (short passages about Mohammed). Smearing them - no interest. Hiding them, disguising them, denying many parts of the content - again, no interest.
This is a great line of questioning, digging, following the rabbit. I have one neighbor .. relatively young newly wed couple with one child. He doesn't understand my anti-war stance .. I asked him why he wanted to go kill them .. he said, "Because they want to cut our heads off!" .. this shows the effect of Western CIA Propaganda .. like a religion. We are the invaders on their land in these other countries .. what would we do if we were invaded? Wearing other people's shoes is a strange thought to some!
About one of your questions: what would we do if we were invaded? Good question, and part of that answer is evident. The West acquiesces over and over, for instance suppressing freedom of speech (like the freedom to tell the truth - read Elisabeth Sabatsch-Wolff's The Truth Is No Defense) when Muslims claim to be offended - though it is not a crime to offend anyone.
I was volunteering in a history museum when a visitor, quite older than I was at the time, pointed out that groups often have axes of belief. Inthe case of Chrstians, there are cohorts often called fundamenralists, sometimes also described as literalists. The other end of these axes are sometimes called mystics. In the case of Christians, the human focus of the four gospels counseled against excess literalism, as I recall.
That is one approach. Most of the people I interviewed focussed on the original texts, comparing the content with mainstream teachings on Islam. Another focus: the non-integration of a significant percentage of Islamic incomers (whether as immigrants or refugees) into the dominant culture, including the disproportionate amount of rapes committed by Muslim vs non-Muslim men. So in Sweden, at the time that 3% of the population identified as Muslim, 65% of convicted rapists were Muslims - meaning over 20 times the rate for non-Muslims. What was going on, and what could be done? One huge problem: the refusal of Western government to deal with this, or even to acknowledge this - and instead do name-calling of anyone paying attention to reality.
To speak of Islam as a hegemony is alarming to me, similar to a habit I have noticed lately of finding bad actors, then insisting an entire cohort consists of bad actors and that his justifies collective punishment of sn dntire group. Will you study Sufis? Ba'hai? Just the madrassa system from a particular cohort?
I would not hold that all Christians, all Buddhists, etc, are one thing or another. Likewise this is not about all Muslims, or all branches of Islam. The people I interviewed are particularly interested in Islamic ideology as found in the Quran and other core religious texts, and Islamic history. By the way, saying "it's not all Muslims" is part of the BIG BUT strategy - used against people who are exploring.
That event can be touched upon. Lots of debate: to what extent was that event created by the Predators to bring about a response that made Americans ready to go to war with the supposed perpetrators? So I don't consider 9/11 core to understanding Islam - rather core to understanding the Predators.
Re" "a false flag to invade 7 countries in 5 years, most of them Muslim." That is not about Islam, but about the countries doing the invading - yes, an important topic, and also one where there has been a lot of focus. Here the focus is on Islam, and insofar as it is on the West, a main focus will be on, for instance, Western government policies re speaking about Islam, re Western government policies re Muslim incomers (immigrants and refugees), etc
Iraq celebrates its first woman airplane pilot (yes, girls can and do go to school in most of the Islamic countries, with Afghanistan being a tough exception) - https://www.shafaq.com/en/Report/Captain-Razin-Al-Doski-makes-history-as-the-first-Iraqi-woman-to-pilot-for-Iraqi-Airways
WOW...that should be epic and sticky...are you sure you wouldn't rather just teach your new dog some new tricks instead...? LOL
Hats off to you...
I'm one of those people who doesn't teach her dogs tricks - just sit and stay and down and good dog. So nothing to do except have a third Truth Summit on a topic I agree may be a bit challenging. I will be starting with something from Jason Christoff - interviewed by Reiner. I believe Jason's info may make a big difference. Hope I've piqued your interest!!!
Interest piqued...just difficult finding time...good luck with it!
If you’ve never watched Jason Christoff’s info, I’d say it’s well worth the time. You can always cuddle with 6 cats while watching.
Yes! Let's Do The Twist! My x3 Favourite Guys as well! WHY? Because: I went down the Islam rabbit hole with Dr. Bill Warner & Dr. Robert Spencer. Don't know Mark Durie? Something old: Something New! AND I also like Acts17.com Apologetics (Dr. David Wood) AND now is Community.Acts17.com AND I was 1st introduced to Islam by Dr. Jay Smith (a Christian Polemicist & Apologist) (when he spoke in the UK free-speech park (prior to Political Islam taking it over). Did research with Islamic Historians (hidden) on cloud radio (name?). The following link is with Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson.
here: https://librti.com/view-video/what-do-we-really-know-about-islam
Hi, I think you will love the Islam Truth Summit. Mark Durie - Australian. Fascinating. And for the people you know - do you know about Bill Warner's childhood, for instance - and how that links with everything? As for David Wood, I love his work as well - his intelligence, his detailed knowledge, his sense of humor. I can very much see that you've been down that rabbit hole, and have explored corridors I haven't - like Dr Jay Smith.
I forgot to mention Pamela Gellar! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhLRTMlh8Dk Jay Smith is back on youtube with Pfander Films. AND at this link there is a long write up on the courses. The "enrichment student" course can take the 8 week course that is one of the foundational courses offered to Seminary Students. I figure that your Truth Summit will be watched for years (decades) to come as Western Civilization is torn apart by the lack of/destruction of Christian Foundational Ideals. I have noticed that many people in the social media (will not name) link/state "3 Abrahamic Religions" making no distinctions? For now I will believe that they believe it, a problem of brain-washing. I will be able to take the next Enrichment Course - so that I will be able to -- comment!
Watch the movie " The Promise"
On Islam,
ISLAM- A Short History, by Karen Armstrong,
(A Modern Library Chronicles Book).
“No religion in the modern world is as misunderstood as Islam. It haunts the popular Western imagination as an extreme faith that promotes authoritarian government, female oppression, civil war, and terrorism. Karen Armstrong’s short history offers a vital corrective to this narrow view. The distillation of years of thinking and writing about Islam. It demonstrates that the world’s fastest-growing faith is a much richer and more complex phenomena than its modern fundamentalist strain might suggest.”
Personal comment: Evil grows, and grows as it destroys religion…..
My own understanding of Armstrong is very different - that she has a fantasy image of Islam, far from that found in the original texts.
The CIA is responsible for re-writing BOOKS and creating chaos. Same with dictionaries.
Why is Judeo-Christianity dominating the world? Because it. fits very well for Capitalism...
I clearly hear what you are saying, You seem unaware of (anyway silent on) the massive persecution of Christians and Jews in many parts of the world. You also seem unaware of the massive erosion of and denigration of Judeo-Christian values across the West.
Yes, Elsa, the world is being taught to hate all Religions. Evoke hate among all religions…divide and rule tactics….Religion vs.Religion…….
I would suggest reading: The World’s Religions, 50th Anniversary Edition, by Huston Smith.
Huston Smith is widely regarded as the most eloquent and accessible contemporary authority on the history of religions. “The best one-volume book on world religions.”—Library Journal.
‘Huston Smith’s classic on the world’s religions has justifiably become as venerable as the old texts he studies….I urge all readers to make it the core of their home library.”—Thomas Moore, author of Care of the Soul.
Emphasizing the inner-rather than the institutional-dimension of religions. www.hustonsmith.net.
William James: …"the life of religion as a whole is mankind’s most important function."
I'm one of those BUT, BUT, BUT folks hating to smear all targets with one brush.
I shall be tuning in with great interest as I have done with the previous excellent Truth Summits.
'hear, hear' says this BUT, BUT, BUT-person to the other BUT, BUT, BUT-person :-)) when I lived in Indonesia (very muslim, very tolerant) I was involved in a project translating into English various texts from the Qur'an concerning women's reproductive health (yes, babies and sex and so on) and marriage- and divorce-laws. not hear-say hadith, which are in many cases very different, as in: more conservative and restrictive. it was very informative, loved working on it.
Wonderful that you will be tuning in with great interest. About smearing any target: my interest is in showing what you call the target, what I see as the focus of attention - in this case, the core Islamic religious texts, notably the Quran, also the Sira (life of Mohammed) and the 2 major authenticated collections of Hadiths (short passages about Mohammed). Smearing them - no interest. Hiding them, disguising them, denying many parts of the content - again, no interest.
This is a great line of questioning, digging, following the rabbit. I have one neighbor .. relatively young newly wed couple with one child. He doesn't understand my anti-war stance .. I asked him why he wanted to go kill them .. he said, "Because they want to cut our heads off!" .. this shows the effect of Western CIA Propaganda .. like a religion. We are the invaders on their land in these other countries .. what would we do if we were invaded? Wearing other people's shoes is a strange thought to some!
Anti-war? Against all wars?
About one of your questions: what would we do if we were invaded? Good question, and part of that answer is evident. The West acquiesces over and over, for instance suppressing freedom of speech (like the freedom to tell the truth - read Elisabeth Sabatsch-Wolff's The Truth Is No Defense) when Muslims claim to be offended - though it is not a crime to offend anyone.
let's not succumb to so-called political correctness/PC - it doesn't work and alienates us from reality ('let's call a spade a spade'...).
I appreciate paying attention to reality.
I was volunteering in a history museum when a visitor, quite older than I was at the time, pointed out that groups often have axes of belief. Inthe case of Chrstians, there are cohorts often called fundamenralists, sometimes also described as literalists. The other end of these axes are sometimes called mystics. In the case of Christians, the human focus of the four gospels counseled against excess literalism, as I recall.
That is one approach. Most of the people I interviewed focussed on the original texts, comparing the content with mainstream teachings on Islam. Another focus: the non-integration of a significant percentage of Islamic incomers (whether as immigrants or refugees) into the dominant culture, including the disproportionate amount of rapes committed by Muslim vs non-Muslim men. So in Sweden, at the time that 3% of the population identified as Muslim, 65% of convicted rapists were Muslims - meaning over 20 times the rate for non-Muslims. What was going on, and what could be done? One huge problem: the refusal of Western government to deal with this, or even to acknowledge this - and instead do name-calling of anyone paying attention to reality.
To speak of Islam as a hegemony is alarming to me, similar to a habit I have noticed lately of finding bad actors, then insisting an entire cohort consists of bad actors and that his justifies collective punishment of sn dntire group. Will you study Sufis? Ba'hai? Just the madrassa system from a particular cohort?
I would not hold that all Christians, all Buddhists, etc, are one thing or another. Likewise this is not about all Muslims, or all branches of Islam. The people I interviewed are particularly interested in Islamic ideology as found in the Quran and other core religious texts, and Islamic history. By the way, saying "it's not all Muslims" is part of the BIG BUT strategy - used against people who are exploring.
Elsa, if you are going to have an Islam angle, you cannot overlook including the September 11, 2001 event.
That event can be touched upon. Lots of debate: to what extent was that event created by the Predators to bring about a response that made Americans ready to go to war with the supposed perpetrators? So I don't consider 9/11 core to understanding Islam - rather core to understanding the Predators.
Well, 9/11 was used as a false flag to invade 7 countries in 5 years, most of them Muslim.
I still look forward to following your next truth summit. :-)
Re" "a false flag to invade 7 countries in 5 years, most of them Muslim." That is not about Islam, but about the countries doing the invading - yes, an important topic, and also one where there has been a lot of focus. Here the focus is on Islam, and insofar as it is on the West, a main focus will be on, for instance, Western government policies re speaking about Islam, re Western government policies re Muslim incomers (immigrants and refugees), etc
Ok, great - better idea of what to expect.