DYNAMITE! WHERE INFO COLLECTED BY THE USS LIBERTY ENDED UP
This is the second time I was sent the following claim, as a comment:
The treacherous LBJ was having the Liberty's data transmitted to ''our ally Britain'' but he damn well knew that the Brits were Allied with Egypt so that data was ending up at Egyptian HQ WHERE THERE WAS A MOSSAD SPY so it was relayed to the IDF that their transmissions were right there and HAD TO BE STOPPED. Hence some likely confusion over whether the Liberty was Egyptian really or American. In any case it had to be stopped and totally stopped, whose ever it was. Israelis are serious about protecting their troops and it was not some airhead woke nation-building American game. The Israelis had to win that war on 5 fronts and against huge odds, so stealth would be vital.
Why did I not respond the first time I received this claim? I remember receiving it, Was it was just too much for me to handle? Too much dynamite? Completely blowing up and sinking the standard story? No need for any more information, all the careful sorting through claims and counter-claims.
This time I’ve both asked for the source and looked online. I have not heard back from the person who left the claim and I did not find the source online. When I get the source I will include it.
GOT IT: It’s in a comment below :
https://truthsummit.substack.com/p/dynamite-info-from-uss-liberty-to-uk-to-egypt/comment/83901177
But in the meantime I found lots of evidence of LBJ being treacherous, of his lying and deceiving. Also, according to a quick search, when he became the US president through the assassination of JFK, he gloried in being the most powerful man in the world. King, according to one reference.
It’s self-evident that someone treacherous cannot be trusted to tell the truth. So we cannot trust as truth LBJ’s statement that sacrificing a few American sailors was nothing to protect an ally, Israel,
LBJ’s statement was brilliant in deceiving both the survivors of the USS Liberty and almost everyone else to be anti-Israel. The 3 survivors I’ve listened to are all anti-Israel - small wonder. The attack and their subsequent abusive treatment is all blamed on Israel.
On the other hand, the evidence indicates that Israel was not treated as an ally, but on the contrary found itself with a spy ship intercepting all transmissions and sending them to the UK - where, according to this claim, they were soon retransmitted to Egypt.
Even if the information did not get to Egypt, the USS Liberty was acting an an enemy vessel.
It needed to be stopped.
I rather doubt that the man who saw himself as the most powerful man on earth realized that Israel would attack to protect itself.
Posted December 31, 2024
Your careful assessment and reporting on the USS Liberty had been valuable to all interested in truth. On LBJ, he lied about Vietnam and nearly everything else. Why would he not lie about the USS Liberty?
Just getting around to emails this holiday and then I saw a ''substack message'' in my inbox... haven't used it til now so I delayed writing then saw this posting, so I'm ready to answer Elsa's question.. though not with documents and pictures... just recollections acquired over many years...
So here goes.....
Elsa, most of my contact with Israelis was in the 70s where they made it clear how they were trained and knew from experience to trust their orders as being made always to protect them so they can achieve their mission and survive..., Fighting in the cities was terrible but the rule was stay alive and get the site secured... shoot first, ask questions later...
Plus they seemed to think Americans were the good cowboys in the movies.. the theatres there in Israel are usually showing films a few years later than what we were seeing here. So that was their view of American military back then...
Then not quite so many years ago I encountered an Israeli pilot who actually was on that raid, and he was the one who told me about the mossad reporting to their Israeli contacts about the ''leaking'' data that needed to be stopped.. so the order was given... He said they didn't have any explanations at the time, only later....
The pilots were objecting to orders, saying they saw the flag themselves, but the response was the SHIP HAD TO BE deep-sixxed asap... The pilots didn't find out til later why... I think I also heard about a mossad operative who was punished for whatever it was that he did while on a mission into Egypt, but that story was from a different source...
So as I said, that was how I encountered these reportings from people in that war and what they were thinking...
Some have said, they thought [when I told them the true story from the other pilots] that the Israelis should have stopped and consulted their ''ally'' in the middle of the war, but that's insane if you are genuinely trying to save your brother troops and win a desperate war... Don't you agree?
Coincidentally, on the subject of LBJ and his openly lying and deceiving ways, a friend just sent me this video link about how actually LBJ was UNBEFREAKINLY EVIL... to see some perspective on today's Biden unrelenting story of billion-dollar money laundering, ghastly political crimes against Americans [who didn't vote for him] and the endless stories of sicko perverts in child trafficking, so we can compare traitor-Biden to gangster-LBJ... Enjoy it... if you can stand to see what a murderous killer and liar in our leadersip's pinnacle, we took part in under his orders and gambits..... So be sighing over endless evil...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef_79INE2m8
TTYL