WHERE'S THE WILD ENTHUSIASM? And why no wild enthusiasm? Much to explore about the THIRD TRUTH SUMMIT. On ISLAM. But before that, A BIG EXPERIMENT - starting with info from Jason Christoff.
I remember the response to my announcing my first and second Truth Summits. Fabulous enthusiasm!! This time, I’ve noticed much more wariness.
Here’s what I’d like to ask you. To trust - not that I know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but - but that I care about the truth, that I have done a lot of good searching, and that I will present what I have learned to the best of my ability.
Most of you have had the chance to see my general approach from the other Truth Summits, and in my updates on Reiner.
Here are the links to Truth Summit 1 and 2:
https://truthsummit.info/truth-summit-june-2023.html
https://truthsummit.info/truth-summit-oct-2023.html
How to start the third Truth Summit? One thought is to be like a tour guide with a group including many people at least somewhat uneasy about the proposed tour. I could could address the unease. And I’m doing that.
I have a second thought. A BIG IDEA. To start, not with the tour, but with an EXPERIMENT.
To do that experiment, I need to introduce you (if you don’t know him already) to Jason Christoff, whom I first heard of in his interview with Reiner, a couple of months before Reiner’s arrest.
Here is the link. PLEASE WATCH. AND SHARE.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/cbUBrYnmvoIS/
I’ll also be sending out a couple of other videos with Christoff. (Note: Islam is never mentioned in any of them.) In fact, because people in the UK have let me know they’re barred from watching the above video, here are other links now:
- speech on mind control: https://www.bitchute.com/video/y9bvwyXJ8zEG/
- breaking bad patterns (the FB link should definitely go through):
https://www.facebook.com/transformationtalkradio/videos/we-all-self-sabotage-how-do-we-break-the-programming-the-dr-diane-show-revolutio/1117298235732038/
We’re all aware of the psy-ops in place in the mainstream about the injections, climate, 15-minute cities. While you watch the interview, I’d like you to ask yourself another question (if you are open to this): what psy-ops do you believe are in place in the mainstream around Islam?
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Before I end, below are comments I received when I announced the third Truth Summit. On Islam. One thing the comments made clear: it made no sense to wade right in, or even just to address the comments one at a time. Needed: addressing underlying causes for these comments.
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COMMENTER 1: I'm one of those BUT, BUT, BUT folks hating to smear all targets with one brush. I shall be tuning in with great interest as I have done with the previous excellent Truth Summits.
ELSA: Wonderful that you will be tuning in with great interest. About smearing any target: my interest is in showing what you call the target, what I see as the focus of attention - in this case, the core Islamic religious texts, notably the Quran, also the Sira (life of Mohammed) and the 2 major authenticated collections of Hadiths (short passages about Mohammed). Smearing them - no interest. Hiding them, disguising them, denying many parts of the content - again, no interest. I care to look at and understand.
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COMMENTER 2: To speak of Islam as a hegemony is alarming to me, similar to a habit I have noticed lately of finding bad actors, then insisting an entire cohort consists of bad actors and that his justifies collective punishment of sn dntire group. Will you study Sufis? Ba'hai? Just the madrassa system from a particular cohort?
ELSA: I would not hold that all Christians, all Buddhists, etc, are one thing or another. Likewise this is not about all Muslims, or all branches of Islam. The people I interviewed are particularly interested in Islamic ideology as found in the Quran and other core religious texts, and Islamic history. By the way, saying "it's not all Muslims" is part of the BIG BUT strategy - used against people who are exploring.
COMMENTER 2 (reply): I was volunteering in a history museum when a visitor, quite older than I was at the time, pointed out that groups often have axes of belief. In the case of Christians, there are cohorts often called fundamentalists, sometimes also described as literalists. The other end of these axes are sometimes called mystics. In the case of Christians, the human focus of the four gospels counseled against excess literalism, as I recall.
ELSA: That is one approach. Most of the people I interviewed focussed on the original texts, comparing the content with mainstream teachings on Islam. Another focus: the non-integration of a significant percentage of Islamic incomers (whether as immigrants or refugees) into the dominant culture, including the disproportionate amount of rapes committed by Muslim vs non-Muslim men. So in Sweden, at the time that 3% of the population identified as Muslim, 65% of convicted rapists were Muslims - meaning over 20 times the rate for non-Muslims. What was going on, and what could be done? One huge problem: the refusal of Western government to deal with this, or even to acknowledge this - and instead do name-calling of anyone paying attention to reality.
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COMMENTER 3: On Islam. Here is ISLAM - A Short History, by Karen Armstrong, (A Modern Library Chronicles Book).
“No religion in the modern world is as misunderstood as Islam. It haunts the popular Western imagination as an extreme faith that promotes authoritarian government, female oppression, civil war, and terrorism. Karen Armstrong’s short history offers a vital corrective to this narrow view. The distillation of years of thinking and writing about Islam. It demonstrates that the world’s fastest-growing faith is a much richer and more complex phenomena than its modern fundamentalist strain might suggest.”
ELSA: My own understanding of Armstrong is very different - that she has a fantasy image of Islam, far from that found in the original texts.
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COMMENTER 4: Elsa, if you are going to have an Islam angle, you cannot overlook including the September 11, 2001 event.
ELSA: That event can be touched upon. Lots of debate: to what extent was that event created by the Predators to bring about a response that made Americans ready to go to war with the supposed perpetrators? So I don't consider 9/11 core to understanding Islam - rather core to understanding the Predators.
COMMENTER 4 (reply): Well, 9/11 was used as a false flag to invade 7 countries in 5 years, most of them Muslim. I still look forward to following your next truth summit. :-)
ELSA: Re: "a false flag to invade 7 countries in 5 years, most of them Muslim." That is not about Islam, but about the countries doing the invading - yes, an important topic, and also one where there has been a lot of focus. Here the focus is on Islam, and insofar as it is on the West, a main focus will be on, for instance, Western government policies re speaking about Islam, Western government policies re Muslim incomers (immigrants and refugees).
MORE FROM ELSA: I’d have lots to add here, including about Western government policies regarding putting the demand not to offend above the right to freedom of speech, the right to tell the truth, the right to question. I have also read about many instances, in various Western countries, of leniency in sentences for sexual crimes when committed by someone Muslim. A particularly horrific instance from Austria comes to mind: a 10-year-old boy raped by an adult Muslim, I believe in the changing area of a swimming pool. The boy was so physically injured that it took much surgical intervention to repair the damage to his rectum. The sentence, upon appeal, was something, from my memory, like one year because the Muslim did not know Western standards. The first sentence was even more outrageous: no prison time at all, again due to the Muslim not knowing Western standards. Note: this is about Western countries in relation to Islam.
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COMMENTER 5: This is a great line of questioning, digging, following the rabbit. I have one neighbor .. relatively young newly wed couple with one child. He doesn't understand my anti-war stance .. I asked him why he wanted to go kill them .. he said, "Because they want to cut our heads off!" .. this shows the effect of Western CIA Propaganda .. like a religion. We are the invaders on their land in these other countries .. what would we do if we were invaded? Wearing other people's shoes is a strange thought to some!
ELSA: Anti-war? Against all wars?
About one of your questions: what would we do if we were invaded? Good question, and part of that answer is evident. The West acquiesces over and over, for instance suppressing freedom of speech, like the freedom to tell the truth, when Muslims claim, for instance, to be offended - though it has not been a crime, in the West, to offend anyone. Read Elisabeth SabatIsch-Wolff's Truth was My Crime.
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COMMENTER 6: The CIA is responsible for re-writing BOOKS and creating chaos. Same with dictionaries. Why is Judeo-Christianity dominating the world? Because it. fits very well for Capitalism...
ELSA: I hear what you are saying, You seem unaware of (anyway you are silent on) the massive persecution of Christians and Jews in many parts of the world. You also seem unaware of the massive erosion of and denigration of Judeo-Christian values across the West.
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ON THE OTHER SIDE, HERE’S A COMMENT FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN DOWN THE ISLAM RABBIT HOLE:
COMMENT 7. Yes! Let's Do The Twist! My x3 Favourite Guys as well! WHY? Because: I went down the Islam rabbit hole with Dr. Bill Warner & Dr. Robert Spencer. Don't know Mark Durie? Something old: Something New! AND I also like Acts17.com Apologetics (Dr. David Wood) AND now is Community.Acts17.com AND I was 1st introduced to Islam by Dr. Jay Smith (a Christian Polemicist & Apologist) (when he spoke in the UK free-speech park (prior to Political Islam taking it over). Did research with Islamic Historians (hidden) on cloud radio (name?). The following link is with Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson:
https://librti.com/view-video/what-do-we-really-know-about-islam
ELSA: I think you will love the Islam Truth Summit. Mark Durie - Australian. Fascinating. And for the people you know - do you know about Bill Warner's childhood, for instance - and how that links with everything? As for David Wood, I love his work as well - his intelligence, his detailed knowledge, his sense of humor. I can very much see that you've been down that rabbit hole, and have explored corridors I haven't - like Dr Jay Smith.
Posted February 22, 2024
Ever since I joined the resistance to Political Islam on the web in mid 2009, I've noticed the same fallacies trying to whitewash Islamic history, while the same who accuse try to downplay or deligitimize trustworthy works by serious scholars and researchers like Darío Fernandez-Morera (author of the Myth of the Andalusian Paradise) or Raymond Ibrahim (author of many books about the true history of Islamic supremacism), both of whom use authentic Islamic sources!
I'm also a huge fan of Dr. Bill Warner and have total respect for his work, I don't know anything about his childhood but whatever that is it won't change my respect for his work either.
Thank you for your amazing activism on these different areas and, please, do stay safe, we know Muslim supremacists are utterly dangerous!
P.S.: I thought I could share a brief, 10-minute video of an interview with scholar/activist Raymond Ibrahim for those who don't know his work yet:
https://frankspeech.com/Video/the-absolute-truth-with-emerald-robinson-joined-by-raymond-ibrahim
Hi elsa 👋
I only know the basis in religion from islam for my own parralellism study, so ill skip having opinion on that debate. Altho it surely gravitate around world domination of the nwo more then racial dillema.
I was putting a little space time in our talk to introduce Jason Christoff works. But seems you already on it! so great! I i know he isnt french but he is canadian and what he got to say cant be evaded.
Lastly, we all clumsy sometimes, its sure that none of us are gatekeepers in the secret of the gods so we blindly seek the light to get out of the cavern. Hope i reduce the pressure you got when evryone will see how un-professionnal totaly human «from the people to the people » kinda guy i am. I think most of the time when a truth seeker got it wrong, its mostly lies that fooled us, not bad intention( i feel that way for math ereth to) and many more over the last years i saw. That include evryone! Cause i found people calling dirt on evryside to evryside. And as amazingpoly pointed out… its bigger fish that owns the controled opposition narative. Like wellness comp, shapiro, peterson from the last dreamteam and campbell from the new dreamteam… but do they know it? If 90% freemasons dont see they joined an evil cult, is it so hard to think some truthseeker joined wrong group of propaganda master?
On that peace ✌️, have a nice day evryone. I’ll mail you 2morrow for our anglo-franco re-union 😉and dont worry if saturday is too early i can swap to anytime you are free.